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Monday, 8 December 2008

MomoLondon: Mobile Social Networking

Not the most thrilling of momolondon’s tonight. The panel format worked well and the chairs asked reasonably interesting questions, but I think it was the subject matter that just felt a bit samey to me. Even the twitter backchannel seemed a little subdued. Maybe it was just my cold…

The best bits for me were Steve Lawson talking about his experiences of trying to use his mobile for social media (where by media, he meant actual music and video production).

Priya Prakash of Flirtomatic also had some interesting things to say, but I felt that she didn’t really get into her stride. She said she was in the middle of a user experience analysis of her site and wanted to involve the audience in some research, but this never really happened. Perhaps an idea for a future Mobile Monday…?

Anyway, here’s my notes — as always, please add comments if there’s something that you want to know more about.

First Panel: Why are people going to be using mobile social media?

Panel

  • Chair: Josie Fraser
  • Steve Lawson - Musician/Consultant
  • Luke Brynley-Jones - Trutap
  • Paul May - Bluehoo
  • Brian Fuchs - Internet Centre, Imperial College
  • Graham Brown - MobileYouth

Steve

  • broadcast model of connecting to audience is dying
  • entry level of broadcasting has dropped
  • how am I using it: with a great deal of frustration…
  • currently using mobile to post data as things happen
  • not using other people’s mobiles
  • where is it going? for most people, it’s not the gadget that’s important
    • don’t want my audience to have to become mobile geeks in order to access
    • e.g. twitter
  • I take the bus rather than the tube as I can be online during the journey

Luke

  • had to focus on where users actually were
  • a lot of users in asia — india, indonesia
  • did 120 interviews with users and ex-users
  • had been focussing on facebook, but 0% of users in Mumbai have facebook accounts
  • further details:
    • typically 20-30 year olds
    • slight male bias, but not much
    • wanted to chat with their friends
    • wanted to flirt and meet others
    • location was important — e.g. there are transport problems in Mumbai
    • sitting there 2-3 hours a day chatting with their friends

Paul

  • wrote a book in 2001 called Mobile Commerce — did very well in China…
  • nowadays meetings never happen when they’re organised — instead people send you messages by every which way and you’re supposed to pick them all up and not be surprised
  • in a proper mobile world, everybody here in the room would be communicating with each other, rather than just panel broadcasting out with no feedback
    • that was kind of happening with the twitter backchannel, but it wasn’t reaching the panel very well
    • Josie said she would have liked the twitter stream on the projector

Brian

  • have to develop peer-to-peer architectures and decentralised payment solutions
  • otherwise 3 billion devices will overwhelm the services

Graham

  • “only two industries in the world that call their customers ‘users’… the mobile industry and crack dealers!”
  • mobile social media is not relevant for youth - just want to look good and get laid :-)
  • driven by:
    1. need to belong
    2. need to be significant
  • go and see what red bull is doing with red bull music academy

Q&A

What about people over 35?

  • Steve: most of my audience are over 30
  • Graham: youth are future customers
    • mobile social media is not the sales channel
    • it’s about building the relationship in order to increase the sales opportunities
    • so youth are the future market (like banks)
  • Simon Rockman: only successful phone aimed at older people was Emporio(?) in Austria
  • Steve: “proposed twitter to my Mum — terminology was the barrier”
    • “as soon as I explained that it was like texting me and my brother at the same time, she wanted me to sign her up straight away”
    • “now if I tweet and text at the same time, she returns the tweet first”

What about privacy?

  • Paul: we seem to have all agreed to become performers
  • Josie involved with schools looking at use of mobile
    • looking at addressing behavioural issues such as happy slapping
    • rights and responsibilities

Terence Eden: is it a danger that there’ll be too much focus on iPhone when everybody use RAZRs?

  • Steve: ok to target 10% if they can distribute to others — make content “tearable”

2nd Panel: Industry Perspectives

Panel

  • Chair: Dan Appelquist — Vodafone/Mobile Monday
  • Andrew Scott — Founder of Rummble
  • Sean Kane — Head of Mobile for Bebo
  • Priya Prakash — Flirtomatic
  • Jennifer Grenz — Shozu
  • Christophe Hocquet — Moblr/BuddyMob
    • have seen average session times of 3 hours!

What impact is flat rate having?

  • Priya: one user came along to user testing with 6 different SIM cards and was swapping in and out as needed and for best rate…
    • as long as they can access the service, they will do what it takes
  • Jen: big change for Shozu is roaming to wifi
  • Sean: lot of bebo users are under 24, but are spending a lot
    • 30% of traffic on a lot of operators is going to mobile social networking

How many of your users are roaming? Is that impacting?

  • Andrew: mobile by definition is something you travel with
  • Sean: see a lot of users switching to roam-able services like text messaging

On deck/off deck

  • Sean: need to be both off and on deck
    • starting today, wouldn’t bother with on deck
    • “all the friction is on deck” — you have to work with lots of awkward operator people
  • Priya: if you could get rid of all those noisy banners operators should be able to make a fantastic personalised experience…
  • Jen: non-operator driven discoverability is on the rise, compared to operator-driven
  • Sean: haven’t figured out how to make mobile experiences viral — how do you share?
  • Dan: Obama iPhone app — download and it examines your address book and tells you to call people in swing states
  • Priya: need to have a contextual “share with a friend” — share a social object. It’s a challenge to find something suitable to send
  • Jen: “this service is more exciting to me if you join”
  • Andrew: released iPhone app, not Java, since 99% sure that it will be a good experience
  • Priya: how many people in audience have sent something to a friend via a mobile internet site? answer: about 30-40%
  • Sean: SMSs are not a long term strategy, but are good as a one off to bring people in to the network

How do you inform users of potential costs?

  • Dan: maybe there’s a place for a mobile social network as a support group for those suffering from bill shock :-)

Privacy settings for location-based services?

  • Andrew: you need to provide it, but you’ll probably find that no one uses that feature
    • What’s the minimum age? We copied what facebook do: 13
    • But it depends on the context of the network
  • Priya: have to provide a social fuzzy location — otherwise it seems too freaky
  • Jen: in terms of photos, people want to upload exact location but keep it private
  • facebook privacy settings are quite granular, but possibly too detailed for anyone to understand
    • Josie: facebook ran into problems with data protection as it wasn’t clear that young people could understand the various settings — still an ongoing case
  • if you support fireeagle, you have to support specific levels of granularity of location — cannot release data that is too detailed

Metrics — what’s the most important thing that you’re measuring that shows the health of your business

  • Andrew: engagement, rummbling a place, rating a POI
    • iPhone app is 3-4 times higher than online
  • Sean: how many more people using this week?
    • figuring out ways to use virality
  • Priya: number of flirtograms
    • all about getting people from first use through to first paid item
  • Jen: churn, defined by active use and returning users, month on month, year on year
  • Christophe: click through rate, love

Setting up a working group to share location amongst mobile social networks

  • Andrew: not sure what the name is yet, but have been talking to 5 or 6 other network — about 20 million users in total

Combining social networks with serious applications

  • Andrew: 37% on a social network in US; Korea has 87% — waiting for critical mass
  • Priya: working with BBC mobile
  • Sean: causes, e.g tsunami-related, etc.
    • not quite at the phase on mobile where you can start to open platform — still fighting over getting users
  • Met Office have just launched a Mobile TV channel, ad-funded

Summing up

  • Jen: choice
  • Priya: friends are overrated :-)

Next event

  • next event probably second Monday in January
  • also opportunities to sponsor the podcast…

Monday, 24 November 2008

Future of Mobile 08: Barriers & Gateways for Mobile Startups

A great panel session, led by Ewen MacLeod of Mobile Industry Review (don’t forget their Xmas Charity Prize Draw!). Lively, energetic and containing actual useful information. The first panel made Future of Mobile start with a whimper — this session made it end on a bang!

Panel:

  • Dan Appelquist: Vodafone
  • Mark Curtis: Flirtomatic
  • Alfie Dennen: Moblog
  • Justin Davies: social media consulting + Budyping
  • Carl Uminski: Trutap
  • James Body: Direct of Research @ Truphone
  • Sam Machin: a UK Mobile Operator

Q&A:

  • Mark: First Flirtomatic ad on operator portal — got 3,500 new visitors in 3hrs
  • Is downloading apps still a dark art?
    • Justin: still problems even though a little more standardized
      • VC firm about a year ago just wanted them to have a mobile site
      • Getting better — people understanding benefits
  • How do emerging markets cope with apps?
    • Carl: network isn’t 3G: wait wait wait
      • Once they get it down, it’s really cheap to use (optimised protocols)
  • Has the iPhone store changed things for truphone?
    • James: yes, for everybody in this room
      • we were first VOIP app in app store, and only one for a long time
      • did really well out of that
      • expect to see something similar from Android, Symbian & Vodafone stores
      • Apple system not perfect, but fair chance that app will work if comes from store
  • Will app store model work?
    • Justin: Yes. It already does. It’s so easy. Payment system built-in.
    • James: we make more money off Apple iPhone than off Symbian
    • Dan: urbanspoon — shows you restaurants nearby
      • television ad showing you how to download and install an app
      • I challenge you to see any television ad showing you how to download & install a Java app!
    • Sam: you can make instant decisions on seeing other people’s stuff
  • What about O2 Litmus app store?
    • Dan: Betavine different — aimed at long tail rather than monetization
      • Gives developers a route to market in Germany & Spain — they appear on the portal
      • Betavine is an animal of Vodafone R&D — we have just as much trouble as anyone else getting onto the portal
    • Sam: operators have identity, location & billing location
      • location advantage being rapidly eroded (see Google, etc)
      • Visa take 1-2% of enabling an economy — operators could use billing mechanism to do something similar
  • Do you use external agencies?
    • Mark: used for useability — repaid many times over
    • Carl: some design in house but also use FuturePlatforms
  • Do you see movement to web-based apps?
    • James: going to be a mixture
  • How does a company approach Voda to get on portal or devices?
    • Dan: working towards a future where you don’t have to ask that question
      • If there’s a funnel and a person you have to talk to, that’s a broken system
      • The answer is the web — distribution, development & deployment medium
      • App stores are a part of that
      • Voda talking to Softbank Mobile & China Mobile about widget store
  • iPhone or Android?
    • Mark: iPhone — it’s already out there
    • Alfie: depends on your business. Aim for web unless you need more
    • Dan: aim for web, include Gears + PhoneGAP & you’ve got all you want
    • James: Symbian — quantity has a quality all of its own
      • iPhone — you’ll make more money
      • Blackberry
      • Android
      • We’re even getting on SIM cards
    • Sam: want to get all platforms if your business is based on usage
      • otherwise, if you want to sell the app, then iPhone
    • Carl: J2ME and getjar download store for non-western world
  • Are iPhone users normobs?
    • Justin: most are, though not this panel
      • I gave my mother-in-law my iPhone and she just knew how to use it
    • Alfie: it’s broken in so many ways, but it’s so much better than the rest
  • What user numbers are mobile ad servers looking for to place ads?
    • Mark:
      • CPM — need upwards of 20-30K per day
      • Cost per click — 1000 a day will probably do
      • operators lack understanding of how to sell advertising
      • “Have to evolve very different techniques to milk a pig, a cow and a chicken”
    • James: anybody who uses a fixed price for an ad will have to sharpen their act
  • Network location-based services. Are they dead?
    • Justin: people want to use location, but if operators charge too much then their services will wither
    • Alfie: INQ1 unified messaging with location starting to be useful
    • Sam: two strands to location — tracking vs checking in
      • passive tracking still requires operator
      • enterprise tracking services will still use operator services, but client-side
    • Mark: 40% of mobile users had voluntarily filled in postcode in their profiles
      • then launched location as a search option
      • added 20% to revenues that night
  • What’s the best way to get new users?
    • Justin: get them on the mobile web — pre-qualifies data services, phone ability
      • admob: can ask for specific phone characteristics
  • Most exciting mobile apps from Silicon Valley or Europe?
    • Europe (apart from Dan: India)
  • Future of Mobile is:
    • Justin: complexity — but that’s good
    • Carl: please cheap data
    • James: freedom
    • Sam: one web
  • iPhone or Android?
    • Dan: PC will be Android to iPhone Mac
    • Justin: Android ‘cos more in emerging markets
    • Carl: iPhone or Symbian. We’ll see Android without even knowing it’s Android
    • James: today
    • Sam: Android on an iPhone :-)
  • Favourite mobile app?
    • Sam: twitter
    • James: mobile facebook
    • Carl: google maps
    • Justin: gmail
    • Dan: koi pond — it keeps my kids quiet for the longest time

Sunday, 23 November 2008

Future of Mobile 08: Reaching the whole world

Doug Richard — Trutap

Doug gave a very good talk on how we should change our thinking about the upcoming mobile markets in developing countries. “It’s not just farmers sharing crop prices.”

Tom Hume has written a good summary of Doug’s talk, with extra perspectives coming from his company’s involvement in the development of Trutap.

My notes are a little shorter as I was helping Simon Maddox with some regular expressions…

  • 500m - 1 billion people in aspiring middle classes around the world
  • Comparing LA to Mumbai:
    • Mumbai user wants to do all the social networking stuff that LA user does on his PC
      • Wants to have friends, know friends & meet girls :-)
    • If he visits an Internet cafe, he has to pay 10-100 times as much for data as on his phone, and he will have someone looking over his shoulder
    • Mumbai user’s primary device is the phone
    • Phone is not extension of your web life, it is your only internet access device
  • Social networks on a PC are a temporary phenomenon
    • They should have started on the phone
  • Launching new Trutap today
    • support all of the world’s IM transports (about 16)
    • live feed
    • support full profiles
      • In Japan, dating sites never split from social networking
      • Trutap v2 adds detailed profiles and profile search to put the dating back in